Does Mitt Romney Have Any Integrity? Even Newsweek is Questioning His Tactics

Posted: December 20, 2007 by Rick Hogaboam in Politics
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Read this link from Newsweek on Romney’s latest attack ad on Huckabee: http://www.newsweek.com/id/80949

Mitt Romney’s second waves of attacks on Huckabee are laughable. Even Newsweek is pointing out how dishonest and misleading Romney is being.

Maybe I am hitting below the belt on what I am about to say, but as a Christian speaking to the Mormon faith, it is misleading. I think that the whole religion was started by a charlatan in Joseph Smith. The Mormon church has revised their Scriptures and has a history of flip-flopping on issues like polygamy, blacks bearing the mark of Cain, and on and on. I guess I am not too surprised that Romney was allowed to flip flop on abortion, even though the LDS church threatens excommunication for those who support abortion, and is now the one misleading people in his aspiration for power.

Mitt Romney, you said that you wanted people to leave religion out of this and yet held a press conference on specifically that subject. You claim to be a Mormon and I am wondering what your fellow brethren think about you defaming Huckabee the way you are. Are your supporters proud of how you are spending the countless millions they have donated?

Mitt Romney needs to read the parable about the man who was forgiven much by a king over an enormous debt and yet was unwilling to forgive those who owed him spare change. You have asked for amnesty on your reversals on major moral issues and have been treated with dignity by your fellow candidates…why then are you actually misleading and distorting the people of Iowa and beyond on Mike Huckabee?

All I can say is that if Romney should even win the nomination, I will not vote for him until he issues an apology to those he misrepresented. At least Huckabee had the decency to apologize over a remark he made about the theology of the Mormon faith, which I don’t consider egregious. Huckabee apologized. Will Romney apologize?

Romney supporters, it is time to see him for what he is and ditch him. I like Huckabee, but I would say that there are other options of honorable men running as president that are worthy of consideration. Don’t be hoaxed by the millions spent on lies from Mitt Romney.

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  1. Ty says:

    I am supporting Ron Paul for President, and am a Mormon. Most of my friends are not members of my church, and I often have attended meetings or vacation bible schools with them and their families. I have the utmost respect for all of these people – how they lead their lives, and their devotion to Jesus Christ. However, one experience I had a few years ago serves to illustrate why Mormons believe we are Christian, and why we have trouble understanding why some people do not believe we are Christian. While attending vacation bible school with some friends in Raleigh, North Carolina, the pastor divided the adults into two classes – the “advanced” bible class, and the “beginner” bible class. My wife and I both served Mormon missions as young adults, and though a little leery decided to attend the “advanced” Bible class. It turned out that of the 40-50 adults, 6 people, including us, went to the advanced class. The class over the course of the week turned out not to be about the bible, but about the creeds of the Christian churches.

    The first creed discussed was the Apostle’s Creed, which states:

    =-=-=-=

    I believe in God, the Father Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth,
    and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:
    Who was conceived of the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary,
    suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell.

    The third day He arose again from the dead.
    He ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty,
    whence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.

    I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic church,
    the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins,
    the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting.

    Amen.

    =-=-==

    The teacher, who was not the pastor, then asked each student around the table what they thought of this creed. One expressed some reservation about Jesus “rising from the dead” and the part about “the resurrection of the body”, in that it implied that Christ arose with a body and that there will be a physical resurrection. Another did not believe the portion of the creed that indicated that Christ descended into hell. Another questioned how he could sit at the right hand of God if he was God.

    My wife and I were the last ones to speak. Both of us answered that we felt the creed reflected the biblical teachings of Christ and the Apostles correctly, and we believed in the creed 100%.

    My point is that many people “cling” to the different beliefs of Mormons from other Christian churches, while ignoring the fact that the core Mormons beliefs match the creeds of the early Christian church closer than the beliefs of their particular sect.

    Even the controversy about Mormon belief/disbelief in the Trinity is enlightening. Mormons believe in the Trinity, although not in same way as most other Christian sects teach the Trinity. Mormons believe that the three members of the Trinity can be referred to as one God, as they are one in purpose, and never vary from one another in thought. Indeed, Mormons believe that if you have seen Christ you have seen the Father, because they look, act, think, and do exactly alike. The only difference between the beliefs, which is entire exagerrated, is that most other Christian sects believe the three members of the Trinity are three manifestations of the same being. But if the three are separate beings but think, act, and do as One, isn’t the net result the same thing?

    There are many beliefs in different sects that outsiders could call “bizarre”, but at the core, Christians, including Mormons, believe the same basic things. Some examples of “bizaare things” that are either shared beliefs that Mormons have with other Christians, or are believed and taught by other sects, are:

    Transubstantiation – (not a Mormon belief)
    Virgin Birth – (a Mormon belief)
    Worship of Saints – (not a Mormon belief)
    Earth created in 6000 years – (most Mormons don’t believe, but no official Church stance)
    Infallibility of the Bible – (not a Mormon belief)
    Faith Healings – (a Mormon belief)
    Prophecy – (a Mormon belief)
    Speaking in Tongues – (a Mormon belief)
    Jesus casting evil spirits into Pigs (Mark 5) – (a Mormon belief)

  2. Shame on Mike Huckabee. It was Mike Huckabee who raised the issues of a religious test for office, Romney’s faith as a cult, and promoting himself as the only “Christian Candidate”.

    Huckabee stands back and acts like an innocent, all the while framing questions about Romney’s faith to be questions of his character and integrity. Shame on Mike Huckabee.

    Paragraph 3, Article 6 of the U.S. Constitution reads, “. . . all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

    Well, so much for the Constitution in Huckabee‘s mind. On the campaign trail to the 2008 presidential election, religious bigotry has reared its ugly head. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is a Mormon. As his poll numbers continue to rise there is a sudden, alarming amazement, a dread resulting in utter confusion and dismay led by Mike Huckabee!

    In many denominations pastors rely on the church as their source of income. They are good, moral people whom, I believe, earnestly minister to their respective flocks. Yet, it is also their livelihood. Mormons do not pay their leaders and, doctrine aside, evangelical leaders have problems with that. Too, the rapid growth and retention rates of the Mormon Church, coupled with its superlative welfare system have only added grief to the evangelical leadership. So, from the evangelical seminaries to the smallest southern pulpit the Mormon doctrine is attacked.

    Never mind that one would be hard pressed to find a more humble, clean-living, patriotic, law-abiding and civic-minded group of people than a Mormon congregation. Never mind that the church’s name is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Never mind that two major articles of their faith are: We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost, and We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may. Mormons just cannot be Christians! But they are.

    Pastor turned candidate Mike Huckabee, while speaking (preaching) to the choir at the Values Summit said, “Faith is also threatened, and let me share with you how. I believe that there are many who will seek our support. But let me say that it’s important that people sing from their hearts, and don’t merely lip-synch the lyrics to our songs. I think it’s important that the language of Zion is a mother tongue, and not a recently acquired second language. It’s important that a person doesn’t have more positions on issues that Elvis had waist sizes.” Oh, that was subtle, and hateful. It is just pure religious bigotry; “you can only believe what we say you believe.” And it is offensive to the principle of religious freedom. Where do these ideas come from? Well, just ask Noah Crowe, a Southern Baptist pastor from North Carolina, there’s nothing Romney can do to overcome their distrust of Mormonism. “he studied Mormonism at his evangelical college in a course called Cults and False Religions. He claims there’s nothing Romney can do to overcome their ideas on Mormonism.

    Unfortunately in the evangelical south, such rhetoric has marginalized the most qualified presidential candidate, the one who most shares their value system. Moreover, this consternation is unwarranted.

    More than a few members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints have served in our Federal Government. Democrat Senator Harry Reid is the current senate majority leader. Ezra Taft Benson, Republican, served as Secretary of Agriculture in Eisenhower’s administration. J. Reuben Clark, Republican, was appointed U.S. State Department Solicitor. In 1928, he was appointed Undersecretary of State. In 1930, ambassador to Mexico. Most in the Republican party know of Paula Hawkins of Florida, Gordon Smith of Oregon, Ron Packard and Ivy Baker Priest of California, and, of course, Orrin Hatch. Democrats know Stewart Udall of Arizona, Tom Udall of New Mexico, Ralph Harding of Idaho

    Indeed, on famousmormons.net Stephen M. Studdert, Special Assistant to President Reagan says, “Ronald Reagan truly admired the Latter-day Saints. His administration included more members of the Church than any other American president, ever. Three of us, David Fischer, Gregory Newell and I, served on his personal White House staff. Richard Wirthlin was his chief strategist. Terrel Bell served as Secretary of Education, Bay Buchanan was Treasurer, Rex Lee was Solicitor General. His White House included Roger Porter, Brent Scowcroft, Richard Beal, Blake Parish, Jon Huntsman, Dodie Borup and Rocky Kuonen, and there were many other Latter-day Saints throughout his Administration.

    The list goes on and on. Many more members have served in high and trusted positions throughout the world in business, medicine, law, education, media, sports, and entertainment. Thank goodness. After all, “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

  3. rickhogaboam says:

    Ty and Kenneth,

    Thanks for your thoughtful response. I have had past experiences with LDS folks as well and I have the utmost admiration for their way of life, love for family, and love for country. It is only natural that they should love country as they believe Jesus made a trip here to share the gospel, believe that the Garden of Eden is here in America, and believe that God restored a worldwide church in no other than America, by appearing to Joseph Smith in my backyard of Palmyra, New York.

    Two of my closest friends in high school were LDS and I would attend church functions with them at times as they would do the same with me. One of my friend’s father was a bishop and he even allowed me to lead a devotion and prayer before a family meal at their home. To say the least, I was touched.

    Having said all that, I do assert that I have lots of problems with Mormon theology. I also admit that I hold various aspects of Christian theology in tension. It really boils down to my distrust of Joseph Smith and the constant revisions of the Mormon faith even though they consider Smith a prophet. I also admit that Christianity has constantly been evolving, and I consider myself part of the reformation heritage. It is Scripture, however that is unchanging, and therefore so long as my creed is clearly found in Scripture, I did not discover something new or create a new interpretation, but am grounded in the eternal testimony of Scripture.

    Moving on to Romney, I was questioning his attack ads. I did perhaps punch below the belt bringing his Mormonism into it…but my point is that I perceive the Mormon faith to be evolving so as to be perceived better by the mainstream public. In other wards, they have adapted their positions so as to align themselves with mainstream acceptance…whether it is the polygamy issue, or blacks bearing the cursed mark placed on Cain and his descendants. To me, Romney is no different…he attends Planned Parenthood gatherings, donates money to the cause while trying to placate the people of Massachusetts, and is then pro-life when trying to rally the conservative base of the Republican party. There isn’t a whole lot of backbone there.

    Kenneth, you mentioned past and current Mormons that have served in office. Frankly, I like Senator Hatch because I think he was a solid public servant. The only litmus test I use is whether our public servants represented their constitutes well and at the same time stood by moral principles that are non-negotiable. I do have problems with Harry Reid and wonder why he isn’t excommunicated if the LDS church is serious about their statement regarding abortion. Do you have any insight in how a politician can be for abortion, or perhaps approve federal funding for abortion and at the same time resume their membership in the church?

    Ty, I am glad that you are supporting Ron Paul, think he is very admirable. I do pray that we will find ourselves to be brothers when Christ returns. I am grateful that you hold to the Apostle’s Creed. We probably differ on how we understand very important points of the Creed, which I may consider heretical…but it really boils down to whether your complete trust is in the atoning work of Christ on the Cross, that he suffered the wrath of God for our sin, and imputes to us His perfect righteousness and favor. That is my only hope…I trust in nothing else, not my good works, not the testimony of Joseph Smith, or even the testimony of John Calvin and Martin Luther.

    Like the thief on the cross, my cry to Jesus is, “Remember me in Your kingdom”. I am assured that He will, that he heard the desperate cry of a contrite sinner. That is my boast.

  4. […] December 21, 2007 by rickhogaboam The following is my response to a couple posts from respectful and thoughtful Mormons. Their comments are found at:  https://endued.wordpress.com/2007/12/20/does-mitt-romney-have-any-integrity-even-newsweek-is-question… […]

  5. Ty says:

    Rick

    Thanks for your gracious reply. I do hold to the Apostle’s Creed, and believe the Book of Mormon fully supports the language of that Creed in every aspect. People who have not read the Book of Mormon have no idea how much the Book witnesses of Jesus Christ – basically on every page.

    Practicing Mormons, me included, base their salvation on faith in the atoning sacrifice in Jesus Christ, after all we can do. In other words, we cannot save ourselves through works. Indeed, Faith without works is dead, as the Bible and Book of Mormon both teach, but one can be saved only through faith in Jesus Christ, period.

    Mormons do not worship Joseph Smith. Mormons do believe, as the Bible teaches, that if you reject God’s servants you reject God. Mormons believe that Joseph Smith is one of many of God’s servants sent to teach His truth. So Mormon’s believe if you reject his testimony, you reject God, just as a Southern Baptist would believe that f you reject Paul’s words, or Peter’s, you would reject God. Of course Mormon’s believe the same about Paul and Peter’s words.

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